Jason Agnew : Hey man I agree with you, I just think at that time it might have done well for you in the world of pop culture but in the world of WWE politics they just nailed you to the wall for it.

Rob Van Dam: Right and did you really think I was going to be the longest reigning world champion?

Jason Agnew : No but don’t you think that part of ECW going down the tubes as it is now might have been due to the timing on that conviction there?

Rob Van Dam: Well I’ll tell ya what, definitely, just in perspective but because I know what I know I don’t feel about it the same way. Now I’m going to share with you some of the things I know. Vince wanted to add rules; he told me that he never, ever planned on making ECW anything goes. He said “Well I have to add credibility; I’ve added credibility to the rest. His idea of extreme was going to be have Kelly Kelly out there dancing somewhere in the show and then Sandman out there drinking some beers. To him that made this different than Raw and Smackdown in and edgy way. That was his version of being extreme which was crazy to me. That’s what's going to happen regardless, I was gonna be off for 30 days. When I came back did I wrestle Big Show for the title? Hell no. He kept me at the bottom of the card, the middle of the card; it took me months to work my way back up even though everybody was at those house shows to see me. I knew that and the agents would tell me every night that me and Sabu were the ones getting a reaction. Well big surprise, I already knew that but because of the genius writers and their agenda what's happening to ECW was going to happen either way. Honestly at the end of that 30 day suspension I asked for more time, I asked for more time off.

Jason Agnew : Well you know what having said that though; we mentioned cannabis earlier and that whole thing that just happened. What are your thoughts on now the WWE wellness policy testing for pot?

Rob Van Dam: Ridiculous! Ridiculous, they’re under the scrutiny of congress so they don’t really have a choice. It’s not just the WWE; it is TNA as well and from what I understand congress has their hands on everything. I think that the urine samples are being sent to congress. You know it’s out of their hands, obviously do I think it should be hot water, of course not. Since it is and they’re banning all these substances, tell ya what, they’re really making it hard to do a job like that. Most people don’t realize the pain that the body goes through being a pro wrestler just from seeing what they see, the damage in the ring. You know during a normal match every night, I’d say I’m in about 50 car crashes. What you don’t consider when you are just watching it is that you have no time to recuperate because you’re traveling to the next town, your not sleeping because you’ve got to catch that early morning flight and drive 300 miles the night before. You barely finding time to hit the gym and you don’t have energy to work out anyways so now they want to take away pain pills. They want to away muscle relaxers which you’re obviously being on a doctors prescription for that anyway. Yeah some of the boys abuse it and definitely need to get help. Other adults know how to use medicine properly and unfortunately have to suffer along with the system. They want to take away anything that helps them recuperate and heal like in the form of the steroids and they want to take away pot to help them, again pot helps everything from dealing with pain, coping to help dealing with the not getting rest and dealing stress. It’s just, it can make you feel good when you don’t feel good, and it’s a good thing. I’ll tell ya what, you think now if they ban everything, they are about to ban coffee to tell you the truth, the list of substances is so huge and I’m not saying that if you’re going to be doing a wellness program that you shouldn’t have all of these but it felt like a strong violation of my freedom. To actually have someone go into my body and take my urine from my bladder, I’m responsible, I can take care of myself and I don’t need anybody babysitting me. I’m a contractor out for hire; you know when I’m a pro wrestler. I’m there, I drive by myself for the most part, I show up at the building, I do my job and when I’m done I leave. To make it more than that when you’re still an independent contractor not an employee, it’s really onerous and the point I want to make is this really, really is going to drive a lot of wrestlers to be alcoholics. It’s really hard to drive and wrestle and maintain an athletic physic when you have to pound back beers because that’s the only thing that they’re not tested for, which by the way alcohol is one of the ten deadliest drugs we have.