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Q Okay. With regard to your final policy -- and I apologize if I'm jumping around a little bit.

A That's okay.

Q I'll probably -- one key difference between the final policy and WWE's current policies, is that WWE's policies include provisions for support -- for drug testing for steroids while TNA's appear not to. Why is this the case? Why did you finally not to decide to include testing for steroids?

A Well, it is a prescription drug. I mean, that would be considered to mean a legal prescription drug.

Q So your understanding is that your current policy includes

A Absolutely.

Q Specific provisions that would allow testing for steroids?

A Absolutely. For anyone to use prescription drugs illegally.

Q What was the specific rationale again for -­A Not listing it out?

Q It seems like a curious decision to me. If you wanted it to be clear to your wrestlers that they were included why not list them out?

A I just felt like -- I think everybody at the time felt like for a company of our size and where we were at and how many days a week these people were working for us, this was as comprehensive and included every single thing, the WWE's did without specifically spelling it out.

Q Did you, at any point, spell out to your wrestlers that steroids were covered under that policy?

A Absolutely. We went through this policy with them when they received the'handbooks and, you know, everybody was told -- we walked through it, we walked through every one of these steps. And every wrestler that comes and signs a contract with us gets this in advance and I believe has to sign it, that they reviewed it with us.

Q Okay. And did you when you gave them that policy, did you indicate there would definitely be tests at some point?

A At this point it was to reserve the right and we'll test if there was suspicion.

Q Okay.

A And since this has been enacted, we have had several suspensions and terminations and those that have been sent to rehab for drinking or things such as that. But no testing was quite honestly necessary because it was obvious.

Q Okay. So .you've not conducted any tests under that current policy?

A No.

Q Okay. All right. I'm going to give you a March 24, 2006 draft of the policy. We'll mark that Exhibit 4. [Carter Exhibit No. 4 was marked for identification.]

Q This draft -- stipulation 5 of this draft, which is the third page -- that stipulates that TNA reserves the right to drug test.

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