Bill Dundee Talks Brawl With Randy Savage, Memphis Wrestling, Lawler, WWE & More
Source: IYHWrestling.com"Superstar" Bill Dundee was recently interviewed by IYHWrestling.com, here is a recap by Taso the Greek:
The term "heat" is brought up right away, as Superstar has said before that people today don't know what real "heat" is when it comes to garnering it and how to manipulate a crowd. Jack asks the difference between heat today and yesterday. Bill says kayfabe is dead first and foremost, and he would never have done a wrestling radio show 20 or even 10 years ago. Nonetheless, Vince McMahon changed the business from a territorial weekly business to a weekly TV drama with a big money monthly PPV show and merchandise sales that reap in much more money than they made in the territorial days. He talked about how he and Jerry Lawler were the top stars who were able to get people to buy tickets for the Monday night arena matches, and if you were a wrestler who couldn't draw people to the shows you did not last long in Memphis.
The consensus in wrestling is that Lawler and Superstar did not get along. Did Superstar and Jerry Lawler hate each other? Yes and no, was Superstars answer, to which then he elaborates with a history lesson of Memphis wrestling. Jerry Lawler had a falling out with Jerry Jarrett and went to Florida for a time. Superstar and George Barnes came into the territory and in just 4 months they got over as heels. George Barnes did not stay very long but Superstar said that even today people talk about him in Memphis. Then, Lawler came back to the territory. Personally, they didn't click, as Superstar said that he liked to go out to bars and have a good time, and Jerry was an artist. Away from the ring they did not click, but in the ring they had a ton of chemistry as both tag partners and opponents. Lawler was the star and Dundee was the work-horse. Superstar goes into how Lawler was part of the office and how that specifically effected both of them and their roles in Memphis.
Jack asks Superstar about Sputnik Monroe and his place in Memphis history. Superstar sheds light on the territory some more, from the split between Nick Gulas and Jerry Jarrett, the size of the territory and the massive number of towns involved, and his matches with Sputnik Monroe. He mentions Monroe's disdain for the racism he encountered in the South, and then spoke about his own feelings on racism when he first came to the United States, as well as racism in Australia.
Jack asks about Bill Dundee's experience in the carnival days. Superstar reminisces about carnival wrestling, rubber mallets, marks, and how he felt after getting into the carnival business and finding out that a lot of it was a work. He brings up the driving force behind the old days and today's version pro-wrestling, money. He also talks about the talent today and whether or not they would even be in the business if things were different and the business was not just a big show. When asked about how he felt when the veil was officially lifted from the face of pro-wrestling, he blamed a broader authority and much larger power figure than Vince McMahon Jr., he blamed the sports athletic commissions.
A caller asks Superstar if he would accept an invitation to be in the WWE Hall of Fame. Superstar says that usually it is people who have worked for Vince that get asked to be in the Hall of Fame. He says he would go if asked but doubts he will ever be asked. A follow up question, would he work for WWE if they asked him, and he replied that he would.