Runnels: Yeah, that's how I understood it. It was for me. In recent years, I've tried to bring that back to the table with Vince but he's like, 'No, no, no. We're not going to use that right now.' Now, it's kind of gotten lost in the shuffle, the majority of people wouldn't remember GTV.
WrestlingINC: Do you know why they never did a reveal for that and just kind of dropped it?
Runnels: Well, I got released. So, I guess that was one of the reasons they dropped it.
WrestlingINC: When you were in WCW, that was just a crazy time in the business. They kind of gave you a dark character at first with Se7en and then you became yourself. You were there for the highs and lows. What was it like towards the end of WCW and being on their last ever pay-per-view.
Runnels: I did not wrestle that night, I did some stuff in the back or whatever. But, I was starting my downward spiral at that point with drugs and alcohol and stuff like that. So, I didn't really give a s--t. You know what I mean? I was making good money and just making poor, bad decisions at that point. It just kind of grew, it took on its own beast.
I remember that last TV taping and stuff like that, but I also remember that I couldn't wait to get the f-ck out of there and go home.
WrestlingINC: How were you able to get out of that downward spiral?
Runnels: I had been hired and fired so many times and been so very blessed and lucky. It got so bad back then with drugs and alcohol, with so many pills, cocaine and booze. Then, finally going to TNA and doing the Black Reign and then going back to WWE -- even the times with Booker -- which were the funnest times in my career. We took that character to the next level. There was still, when I'd get home, it just started getting worse and worse. I feel into that trap and drugs and alcohols.
I've almost been 5 years clean and sober from any drugs and alcohol and I'm very, very proud of myself for that. But, I'm also -- those last three days when I was on a pretty serious bender and almost died. Divine intervention, I guess, God said, 'Hey, you need help.' And I knew I needed help but I wasn't ready for it. I wasn't ready to accept that, hey, this is it. I was very scared about the whole situation.
Then, I would just drown myself in more and more to avoid it. Finally, I just threw my hands up and said I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. I made that call to my dad at four in the morning, stumbling drunk outside in the rain and not even being able to stand up straight and s--t like that. The next day, WWE and their Wellness Policy, they reached out back to me and got me straight into rehab and I haven't looked back.
It takes some guys three, four or five times but it's not going to work until you're ready for it to work. You've got to be ready, you've got to want this and I did. So far, I'm doing good and I have not had that desire to slip up and doing anything.
At the beginning of me getting out of rehab and thinking about going back to work, I was scared because I didn't know if I could do this clean and sober. I had worked with some kind of something in my system -- not necessarily alcohol, because I was always taught not to that and then go to work -- but I had plenty of pills in me and s--t like that to get through something. I was scared, can I do this clean and sober? And, man, yes I can.