How he got into TNA: "Through David Lagana. I worked with David Lagana in a few places actually Ring of Honor, NWA Hollywood and then he booked me for Ring Ka King in India. Then he got hired to be a writer in TNA and they were looking for guys. He suggested me to Al Snow and Al Snow saw footage of me and decided to make me a GutCheck contestant."
"It kind of happened quickly. They called me up and Al Snow asked if I would be interested and I said yes. He said, "Alright, I'll see you next week". There wasn't anything I had to sit on really."
On TNA Gut Check: "They literally don't tell you anything. I was the second ever guy to do GutCheck. The first GutCheck was Alex Silva. There was that whole thing where Ric Flair changed his decision on Alex Silva. You see, I don't know how much of that is really a shoot or not. I think they brought me in particularly to be a "No" because they just needed somebody from the indys to make this seem more legitimate and told "no." I think that was a work on their part.
"I think when I wrestled and I had a good match against Austin Aries, thank God I had to wrestle Austin Aries, then I came in and did my promos and stuff like that, even before I was in front of the judges, they weren't telling me I was going to get a "No", but I had a few people telling me things. Like Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan came up to me and said, "Hey, we like your look, we think you are good. No matter what happens out there, we want to do something with you hopefully down the line." They were hinting that I was going to get a "No" vote.
"I was already going in there portraying a heel character so I knew going into this that I wasn't just going to go out there, be told "No" and walk away with my tail between my legs. I'm going to be adamant about it. I was going to be myself, a guy who has been told "No" for the last 12 years by major companies.
"After I did that promo, there was talk of me going around. They were saying to themselves, "How can we use this guy?" Before that, there was nothing planned for me."
Backstage following the Gut Check segment: "Well I don't know if they do this anymore but there were cameras all over the place. Everyone was still filming me. I had an argument with Al Snow in the back. Was it a worked shoot? I don't know. He was yelling at me, I thought it was pretty intense. I knew cameras were on too so I wasn't sure.
"Once the cameras cut, Eric Bischoff approached me and told me, "That was incredible! That's what the segment should be! That's what live TV is all about!" He has a producer's mind. He was the one who came up to me and was the most vocal about it all."
On Taz backstage following the Gut Check: "Taz is kind of a hard-ass. I think he knew but I don't think he liked me right off the bat because of that. He's a prideful person, he is very proud of his wrestling and I was bad-mouthing his wrestling. I think he got to the point where he realized that I was doing anything I could to get a job."
On signing with TNA: "I actually got a call from Bruce Prichard the next day saying, "We got a contract for you". I signed it and faxed it back to them. At that point, I don't really know if they knew where the storyline was going to go at that point. They just wanted to capitalize on any hype that happened.
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