Holly: Kind of like they did with me? They're in the same boat as I was.
Williams: I get angry for Kofi the same way I got angry for you!
Holly: Kofi is always going to be doing what he's doing now. That's never going to change now. He's too far gone in terms of that role that it'll never change. Dolph - he's borderline. He's teetering on that - he's started getting wins again here and there but he's teetering on that fine line of that role that I was in and that Kofi's in. That's the nature of the business though - they bring people in and I can't blame them for doing it, they need to know if people are going to be star material or not. They constantly have to make new stars, so I don't blame them for doing it but on the other hand, you have to sacrifice talent that has been there for a while. It's a double edged sword.
Williams: You're talking about top stars - their top stars now... much like 2004, ten years ago, Randy Orton, John Cena, Dave Batista, Rey Mysterio, the Big Show, Mark Henry, Kane... all of these guys are still there and Cena's not going away any time soon, Randy Orton's not going away any time soon - how are they going to get anybody over to that top level? Punk came in, got to the top and then decided he couldn't be bothered and left and part of it could well have been that he looked around and thought "is this still 2005?"
Holly: It's just always been like that though!
Williams: Go back and look at the 80s. Hogan left! Savage left! Warrior left! They weren't around for 10 years - with WCW, you could switch it up and move people in and out.
Holly: The thing is the reason those guys, Cena, Orton, Batista are still there is because they haven't found anybody else to replace them. Punk could have but they're looking for something specific. It all comes down to politics. Look at Dolph. There's no reason this guy should be losing like he loses.
Williams: I don't get it either, Dolph is everything they could want in a top guy.
Holly: Exactly, Dolph has the same amount of charisma as Shawn Michaels. Look at when Dolph comes out - as soon as he comes out, instant energy! He grabs everybody, right out of the gate. He grabs your attention. Nobody will ever get it - the only people who will get it are Vince and Hunter but nobody will ever know why you have a guy who looks good and is a great worker but not up there and you've got a subpar worker up there on top. I'll never understand it.
Williams: What did you make of the Warrior tribute?
Holly: It's great to see WWE do a tribute to Warrior but I question why they only do that for certain people? Only people who've made that company tons of money. It's like, in other words, his life is more valuable than a mid carder's life.
Williams: Many of those people on stage this Monday for Warrior - many of them probably worked with Viscera or at least met him whereas maybe what? 10% of those people on that stage ever knew Warrior?
Holly: Yeah, if that. What pisses me off is that these guys that don't get acknowledged when they pass, they sacrifice for that company, they sacrifice their body, they sacrifice their family, they sacrifice so much to work with WWE and for WWE to not acknowledge people but acknowledge Warrior, that's a travesty to me. It's wrong. They're saying Warrior is more important than Viscera. Every human life is just as important as the other. What makes Warrior's life more valuable than Viscera?
Williams: You feel it should be a rule for everybody?
Holly: Yes, for whoever worked for WWE because you do make a huge sacrifice. It should be acknowledged.
Williams: You don't have a problem with what they did for Warrior, they should just do it for everybody the same?
Holly: Exactly. And they should do that. What they did for Warrior, they should do that for everybody that worked for the company and made sacrifices.
Williams: Did you ever meet Warrior?
Holly: Yeah, I did. He was a very pleasant man - VERY charismatic and intense! That man could sell out an arena! I feel real bad for his family, his wife and children - it's a great shame he died so young.
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