Brodus Clay Talks Moving Down The Ladder, John Cena, TNA, Monster Heels, Post-Network Payoffs

I recently spoke with former WWE Superstar Brodus Clay. In the second and final part of the interview below, Brodus talks about his time in WWE, people moving down the ladder in WWE, John Cena saving his WrestleMania 28 appearance, pay-per-view payoffs, TNA and more.

Click here for part one of the interview, where Brodus talks about getting his start with WWE, watching wrestling growing up, Tommy Dreamer's influence, his first WWE release and his return, NXT, his debut constantly being pushed back and more.

Also, make sure to follow Brodus on Twitter @BrodusClay.

Wrestling INC: It felt like you were moving upward with the win streak going, and then you moved down the card once The Big Show feud started. Fans get invested in a character then they suddenly get moved down the ladder such as with Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler. Does creative tell you why this is happening, or do you go to TV and they say, "tonight you lose in 90 seconds?"

Brodus Clay: I can only speak from my experience and one of the things I could have done better was talk to creative. I should have talked to them more than I did. I would speak when spoken to and the same goes for football. Some guys are vocal and can build better relationships. I talked to the agents and they said you're not a main event guy or you need to be patient. I talked to Road Dogg, "Big" [John Gaburick], Arn Anderson, and Dean Malenko. Whoever was in charge of me that day, that's how I managed myself. I think it's a case-by-case scenario. It felt weird talking to creative on my part. I carry myself where I speak when spoken to. It's good and bad.

Wrestling INC: The Big Show and Mark Henry have been around for a long time. It seems like WWE haven't properly booked a monster heel in a while. Do you think the company is missing out by not having a new monster heel?

Clay: The company decides in what direction they want to go. I worked hard to try and put myself in that position, but it wasn't in the cards for me. I had a very good babyface run, but establishing a monster heel - which I think I would have excelled at - and a poor WrestleMania track record is a hard pill to swallow. I thought the heel turn started with the R-Truth matches. It didn't work out, but I have that opportunity now. It can blow up and people can say the WWE was wrong or it fizzles and the WWE knew what they were doing. The WWE chapter of my life was great and I'm excited about the opportunities out there. I'm excited that the opportunities are interested in me. It's nice to be a free agent and taking nonstop bookings. The spectacle of the WWE with the titantron and pyro may not be there, but there are close opportunities.

Wrestling INC: You mentioned your WrestleMania track record. Your WrestleMania 28 scene was almost cut, but John Cena prevented that from occurring. Is that what happened?

Clay: He had to go to the bathroom. We were in the gorilla position and it looked like the segment was getting cut. Cena goes, 'I'm going to the bathroom. Brodus, what do you think like eight minutes?' Worked for me and I will never forget that. It was the classiest thing for a guy who was getting ready for the then biggest match of his career. I've never said we were best friends. We talked about lifting weights, what's going on in sports, and work. That was truly my greatest moment in sports entertainment. I wouldn't have had that moment without Cena.

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